so, i'm 30-something and have been a lifelong jw, born and raised.
(yeah, i know double points against me on the social scale!).
i'm on my way out (and moving at a fast pace with that, lol) and um, am now realizing that outside of the kingdom hall, i am a bit of a social retard!
In order to have a friend, you have to be a friend.
Exactly what my first thought was jamiebowers. What would you like your best friend to be like? When you can answer that, that is how you treat others that you would like as a friend. Kind of like the "treat others as you would want to be treated" the WT preached constantly but never practiced.
this jdub was out walking his two dogs when attacked by a pit bull, killing one of his dogs and causing injuries to his hand.
he was from texas and now lives in melbourne.
he comes from a very well known us jw family (uncles, grandparents in brooklyn, other uncles c/o & d/o, w/t life story of family...).
All pit bulls are not bad, or mean. I've known several people that own them, and they could not be more loving to their owners or visitors. On the other hand, I have seen some that are vicious, just like many other breeds of dogs. You can not say ALL pits are bad, just as you can not say that all whites, jews, blacks, asians, ect are bad. There is always an exception any time anyone says that all of anything is bad.
having explained/pointed out the doctrinal flip flops to some jw's i know i was astonished to find that they just brushed it all aside, on one occasion they seemed to just tune me out and quit listening.
the gb really do have them whipped, it makes me wonder what it would take for them to sit up and realise what a insane religon they are in?!
and in the meantime how much can the gb get away with because of the blind faith of their followers?
1) Sports - they already have boxing, skydiving, etc....why not add more? They could point out the "violence" and "win at all costs" mentality, the "patriotism" of the World Cup and Olympics, etc......
I had an elder tell me that a JW would not ride a motorcycle. That never slowed down my riding a bit, as a matter of fact, I rode down his driveway and turned around in front of his house the same day I bought my brand new bike. He wasn't home, but his JW neighbors quickly filled him in.
ok, im putting my neck on the line here but ive always believed that children should be raised to make their own choice, if to serve jah or not.. i wasnt ever forced to believe in anything, any religion etc, although my background is very complicated.. anyway, hubby and i have always thought that how can a child decide if they dont know what other things are, ie birthday partys, halloween etc.
so, our children are allowed to choose if to go places etc.
last year our little boy said he didnt want to go to a halloween party, this year he said he might.
If she is so free to do all these things she claims, why would she not post her real name, where she lives, and what cong she goes to. I'm sure many would make the trip to see this loving and tolerant cong that she speaks so highly of. I agree with others who already said that most of what she says is BULLSHIT.
if time is infinite, how can we be alive now?
wouldnt everything that can happen have happened already?
given an infinite amount of time, wouldnt the sun have burned out and the universe reached the ultimate state of entropy?
Watching too many Star Trek reruns are ya???
if time is infinite, how can we be alive now?
wouldnt everything that can happen have happened already?
given an infinite amount of time, wouldnt the sun have burned out and the universe reached the ultimate state of entropy?
so i know many of you guys say the best way to show dubs is to be all happy and all when you exit.....but not all of us are doin that well at it....even though i have lost all friends from my dub life....i really dont want to lose my son and folks....this would happen if i end this odd and painful arrangement of a marriage to a really wonderful wife who is hardcore jw.
my desire for freedom and normal social life, and the 800 lb gorilla in the room we live with are not doing so well...........i am tired of having to leave the house and go in the garage to talk on the phone with my non-dub friends.....tired of totally separate social lives.......tired of rules in place that prevent us from speaking about certain taboo topics with each other........my mental/emotional state is not well and has not been for four years.
so i spoke with my dad very openly and honestly about how i have had to wear "masks" through life....one for school since third grade to fit in....another for my parents and jw friends........and that now i still lead a double life when not around my wife........told him outright i feel jws meet every single definition of a cult btw.......he already knew i felt that way but had never said it so directly........i asked him if he felt history repeats itself and could fds not be just like the scribes and pharisees that made so many rules for gods people that they had actually corrupted gods message............he said he has wondered that before too.
If your marrage is going to work, there must be some give and take on both sides. Why can't you talk to your friends in the house? Does she have any non JW friends that she talks to? I'm sure you could think of some, does she go to the garage when she talks to them? If she insists that you go to the garage like a scond class citizen in your own home for calls she deems worldly, then she must do the same with her calls that you do not agree with. If one rule fits for one, it should fit for both. That is the only way your marrage is going to work. Stand up for your rights in this relationship.
I saw on the news last week that most states have removed soda machines and candy vending machines from schools, trying to force students to eat better food. I hope that they are not promoting cafeteria food as"good food."
i went to the local library last night with my wife.
i am trying to follow the advice here and be very discreet with my fade.
as she browsed over to the fiction section, i ran over to the religious section.. i am in the middle of reading crisis of conscience on pdf right now, and sure enough our local library has "in search of christian freedom" in the catalog.
I have finished CoC and both books by S. Hassan. Have started on In Search of Christian freedom, but have been very busy with school & other things. I hope to get back to it very soon. All are exceptional books that show how easy it is to fall under control of a cult, especially Hassan's books. He has been there and knows all the angles. I would encourage you to read both by Franz and Hassan.
in my 4 years of fading i only had a couple of calls and visits.
does that make me lucky?
i am now being hassled to "chat" to an elder via my mobile.. .
I guess I was lucky, started divorce procedings and stopped going. I moved out 7 months later, only 12 miles away, never got a call or visit. I tried to be a pain in the ass at every opportunity so most were probably glad I was gone. You might want to try this one, it worked very well for me.
